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Post by richie3jack on Dec 10, 2010 13:43:04 GMT -5
I had a teaching pro who is getting into learning TGM and we discussed full sweep, random sweep and snap releases. He then mentioned the 'flip release.' I told him that it does not mean the golfer is flipping, but I couldn't quite articulate on what the flip release is. From what I was told in the past, it comes with a circular hand delivery path and that Ernie Els was a good example of a 'flip release.' In Peter Croker's TGM Downloads, Paul Hart states that Sergio Garcia has a 'flip release.' But I'm not so sure that's correct.
3JACK
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daryl
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Post by daryl on Dec 10, 2010 18:01:56 GMT -5
Sergio may have a Flip Release.
During the Downstroke, with a Plane Shift to the Elbow Plane, allow the Clubhead to drop slightly below plane while the hands continue toward the Ball.
In a normal swing, the Clubhead follows the hands on their On-Line Path. But in a Flip Release, the Clubhead is allowed to fall below plane. The Flip, is when the Hands are rolling hard left to overcome the downward momentum of the Clubhead. This "outward throwout" (not an On-plane throwout) releases the Clubhead into its own orbit. The Clubhead is brought back onto the plane for Impact.
The Flip normally occurs in the same place for all clubs and it tends to feel "normal" to the Player.
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Post by wedgey on Dec 10, 2010 19:43:54 GMT -5
Daryl is the bad flipping(not the one Sergio does) because some are trying to throw the weight( clubhead) off the stick and then the hands quit allowing the weight(clubhead) to continue and the hands stay high and the wrists and arms breakdown as they have almost stopped and now the weight(clubhead) is taking over too soon. If that makes any sense?
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daryl
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Post by daryl on Dec 11, 2010 2:45:43 GMT -5
Daryl is the bad flipping(not the one Sergio does) because some are trying to throw the weight( clubhead) off the stick and then the hands quit allowing the weight(clubhead) to continue and the hands stay high and the wrists and arms breakdown as they have almost stopped and now the weight(clubhead) is taking over too soon. If that makes any sense? I understand. Yes, that would be a "Bad" Flip. In a typical Flip Release, the shoulders pull the arms around and very little if any wrist motion is used. It still "feels" like the arms are dragging the club. The Flip Release relies on you to "time" the point in your downswing where the Flip begins and how far the clubhead falls below plane.
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Post by youngsiwalker on Dec 11, 2010 18:21:17 GMT -5
does anyone have a good video of a well executed good flip release?
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joec
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Post by joec on Dec 12, 2010 14:22:43 GMT -5
i would bet the video will not be of sergio.
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Post by richie3jack on Dec 12, 2010 23:30:05 GMT -5
This is one of David Orr's students who, according to David, has a 'flip release.'
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Post by wedgey on Dec 12, 2010 23:45:18 GMT -5
What is the criteria for a flip release?
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Post by youngsiwalker on Dec 13, 2010 8:56:37 GMT -5
cheers richie.............guess i got me a flip release or just a flip
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 13, 2010 9:40:44 GMT -5
cheers richie.............guess i got me a flip release or just a flip nice swing!
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joec
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Post by joec on Dec 13, 2010 14:37:17 GMT -5
it is in the interpretation of what is a flip release. that is what makes learning from a forum very dangerous. orr is a lot more knowledgeable about the golf swing than i am, but that is not a flip release to me.
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