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Post by imperfectgolfer on Mar 25, 2011 23:03:35 GMT -5
Here is Mark Evershed expounding on his opinions regarding the Hogan pivot action.
His point of view is very similar to VJ Trolio's point of view that Hogan used a reverse hip slide action in his backswing, so that he could pivot around his left hip joint in the downswing without needing to slide the pelvis left-laterally and transfer weight. Mark takes it further and states categorically that the left shoulder joint is the pivot point.
I believe that there is no rational justification to support this belief that the left hip joint +/- left shoulder joint is the axis for the golf swing, and that there is no justification to support another optional approach.
George Knudson in his book emphasizes a different approach where he loads on the right leg in the backswing using the right hip joint as the focal point for his axis of rotation and he then transfers weight to the left side before he pivots around an axis of rotation in the region of the left hip joint. I believe that the George Knudson way is a perfectly valid way to execute a golf swing and it is as biomechanically rational as the VJ Trolio method and Mark Evershed's more radical ideology.
George Knudson' swing
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Post by gmbtempe on Mar 25, 2011 23:08:24 GMT -5
Lots of different ways to pivot...there is no absolute right way, there might be a best way for each individual golfer.
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Mar 26, 2011 9:09:02 GMT -5
Greg - I agree that there are lots of different ways to pivot and they can all be effective. That's why I find it disturbing when a golf instructor, like ME, asserts that there is only one effective way to pivot properly.
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Post by gmbtempe on Mar 26, 2011 11:11:19 GMT -5
Greg - I agree that there are lots of different ways to pivot and they can all be effective. That's why I find it disturbing when a golf instructor, like ME, asserts that there is only one effective way to pivot properly. Jeff. Thats why they are golf instructors and not rocket scientists ;D
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Post by jeffy on Mar 27, 2011 11:42:23 GMT -5
Evershed doesn't even know the correct title of Hogan's book, it is Five Lessons, the Modern Fundamentals of Golf, not Five Fundamentals.
If Evershed had studied the Hogan biographies, he'd know that after the accident Hogan deliberately changed his swing to pivot on the left side, as he'd seen done by an old Scottish pro. It was an accommodation for the accident that worked out brilliantly for him. Should others try it? I wouldn't. Today's golfing elite are all power hitters and and a left-sided pivot just isn't as powerful.
BTW, Evershed's heart seems to be in the right place but, after viewing this video, I'll never bother to view another.
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Post by aimsmithgolf on Mar 27, 2011 13:16:22 GMT -5
Hogan's secret, in his own words, will be posted later today or early tomorrow here. Hopefully this will set many Hogan devotees and/or critics on a more correct path of knowledge about this golfing immortal.
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Post by jeffy on Mar 27, 2011 13:57:09 GMT -5
Hogan's secret, in his own words, will be posted later today or early tomorrow here. Hopefully this will set many Hogan devotees and/or critics on a more correct path of knowledge about this golfing immortal. Rand Which one? He spoke of several over the years. I did learn from a former tour pro that was close friends with Tommy Bolt (one of Hogan's inner circle) that there was a secret swing method that Hogan shared with only a handful and, to date, none have revealed it. All this pro would reveal to me was that Bolt taught it to him and he used it until it tore up his left shoulder. Says he is taking the information to the grave! He also said that Venturi knew but, despite all the brown-nosing, never gave it to Jim McLean. He also thought Schlee knew it but that Schlee never revealed it either, despite the claims by the guy that wrote the Schlee-based book a few years ago.
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