Post by utahgolfer on Sept 20, 2020 23:54:55 GMT -5
Here is a video showing the recommended stance for the Tathata golf system.
As you can see they promote a closed stance in their instructional materials.
It is seems to me that few pros use a closed stance. Ben Hogan did with his driver and longer clubs as illustrated in his five lessons book. And I assume some pros do the same in 2020, but I'm not sure how many.
One reason to close the stance with a driver is that the clubhead reaches the bottom of its swing arc before ball contact so the clubhead is moving slightly upward and slightly left of the target at impact. To close the stance (and align the body slightly to the right) theoretically offsets this effect and corrects the clubhead swing path so it moves directly toward the target at impact.
Ben Hogan would also open his stance on his short irons. In contrast to the driver, short irons reach the bottom of the swing arc after ball contact so the clubhead is moving slightly downward and slightly right of the target at impact. To open the stance (and align the body slightly to the left) theoretically offsets this effect and corrects the clubhead swing path so it moves directly toward the target at impact.
But, Tathata says to use a closed stance on all clubs.
Why do they recommend this?
--They claim it is a more powerful position to generate clubhead speed. It does provide a bigger hip and shoulder turn on the backswing. It would also, I assume, create an earlier deceleration of the hips and shoulders during the downswing. Would this cause the arms to move faster earlier in the downswing and increase clubhead speed? Do any long ball champions use a closed stance?
--Does the closed stance help to promote a better loading of the right hip external rotator muscles and a better contraction of these muscles to promote a more efficient and effective pelvic rotation?
--Does a closed stance help to slot the club shaft along the inclined plane more easily? Is it easier to perform a pitched right elbow leading down to p5.5? Does a closed stance make it easier to right lateral bend and not run out of right arm, or does it make this more of a challenge?
--Does a closed stance decrease the problem of swinging OTT relative to the target line? Of course, a closed stance causes an OTT move relative to the stance line, but does this matter? Can a player easily swing in to ball to in when using a closed stance?
--Why would a player want to use a closed stance with shorter irons. A closed stance would steepen the swing path all else being equal. Why would a player want a steeper swing path when using short irons. Plus short irons are not designed for distance, so why use a closed stance?
--Tathata promotes an explosive hip thrust through impact. This involves simultaneous pelvic rotation and pelvic/lumbar extension. Does a closed stance help to do the hip thrust? Is this a safe maneuver compared to a simple shift rotate pelvic maneuver?
Any input is appreciated.
UG
As you can see they promote a closed stance in their instructional materials.
It is seems to me that few pros use a closed stance. Ben Hogan did with his driver and longer clubs as illustrated in his five lessons book. And I assume some pros do the same in 2020, but I'm not sure how many.
One reason to close the stance with a driver is that the clubhead reaches the bottom of its swing arc before ball contact so the clubhead is moving slightly upward and slightly left of the target at impact. To close the stance (and align the body slightly to the right) theoretically offsets this effect and corrects the clubhead swing path so it moves directly toward the target at impact.
Ben Hogan would also open his stance on his short irons. In contrast to the driver, short irons reach the bottom of the swing arc after ball contact so the clubhead is moving slightly downward and slightly right of the target at impact. To open the stance (and align the body slightly to the left) theoretically offsets this effect and corrects the clubhead swing path so it moves directly toward the target at impact.
But, Tathata says to use a closed stance on all clubs.
Why do they recommend this?
--They claim it is a more powerful position to generate clubhead speed. It does provide a bigger hip and shoulder turn on the backswing. It would also, I assume, create an earlier deceleration of the hips and shoulders during the downswing. Would this cause the arms to move faster earlier in the downswing and increase clubhead speed? Do any long ball champions use a closed stance?
--Does the closed stance help to promote a better loading of the right hip external rotator muscles and a better contraction of these muscles to promote a more efficient and effective pelvic rotation?
--Does a closed stance help to slot the club shaft along the inclined plane more easily? Is it easier to perform a pitched right elbow leading down to p5.5? Does a closed stance make it easier to right lateral bend and not run out of right arm, or does it make this more of a challenge?
--Does a closed stance decrease the problem of swinging OTT relative to the target line? Of course, a closed stance causes an OTT move relative to the stance line, but does this matter? Can a player easily swing in to ball to in when using a closed stance?
--Why would a player want to use a closed stance with shorter irons. A closed stance would steepen the swing path all else being equal. Why would a player want a steeper swing path when using short irons. Plus short irons are not designed for distance, so why use a closed stance?
--Tathata promotes an explosive hip thrust through impact. This involves simultaneous pelvic rotation and pelvic/lumbar extension. Does a closed stance help to do the hip thrust? Is this a safe maneuver compared to a simple shift rotate pelvic maneuver?
Any input is appreciated.
UG