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Post by imperfectgolfer on Feb 27, 2011 23:41:53 GMT -5
That MORAD-Snead swing video reminds me of BM and Bruce Lietzke - with their characteristic reverse slot swing and its associated "carry" (AKA "tumble") move. That type of swing action is very likely to produce a CP-release action after impact.
Jeff.
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Post by gmbtempe on Feb 28, 2011 0:09:58 GMT -5
That MORAD-Snead swing video reminds me of BM and Bruce Lietzke - with their characteristic reverse slot swing and its associated "carry" (AKA "tumble") move. That type of swing action is very likely to produce a CP-release action after impact. Jeff. Yes, Brian will probably never say so but a lot of what he says and now has hinted in his research project sure sounds a lot like my research has shown regarding morad (meaning he would never see an association between his stuff and Morad, not that he cares what I think). Only difference is he mixes in a big move off the ball. Snead, Hogan, Mac, they swing over there early backswing splined hand path, if its reverse slot so be it, just made it easier for them to generate an angled hinge.
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Post by gmbtempe on Feb 28, 2011 0:18:25 GMT -5
Hogan hand spline, this is a real good dtl video, lower part of spline is backswing. Attachments:
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Feb 28, 2011 1:26:08 GMT -5
Greg,
You wrote-: "Snead, Hogan, Mac, they swing over there early backswing splined hand path, if its reverse slot so be it, just made it easier for them to generate an angled hinge."
How can a reverse slot swing produce AH?
What is the advantage of using AH post-impact, considering that it occurs post-impact?
Jeff.
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Post by gmbtempe on Feb 28, 2011 2:04:02 GMT -5
Easier to move the baseline left, this makes angled hinging easier.
An angled hinge, and the conditions that force the hinge have advantages on the golf swing. I wish I could say I knew them all but I don't...I am the apprentice and far from the master. What makes it harder is lots of people talk in riddles about this stuff.
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Feb 28, 2011 10:52:01 GMT -5
Greg,
I cannot understand why moving the baseline left makes AH more likely to occur in a golfer's followthrough. Please explain.
I agree that it is the "force" that predisposes to AH that may be advantageous from a pre-impact perspective. However, what is that "pre-impact force" in a swinger's action - if he doesn't use the right forearm's paddlewheeling action to drive-load the shaft through impact?
Jeff.
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Post by gmbtempe on Feb 28, 2011 11:18:34 GMT -5
If you take a strong grip and using a swing-hit force and try to hit it 80 yards left using a pitch elbow, what happens. Those hands will not turnover, period and you will have an angled hinge. There is more to the baseline shift but this is just a demonstration of how the hinge is forced.
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Feb 28, 2011 12:02:52 GMT -5
A swinger doesn't use a "swing-hit force" if he is a swinger and not a swing-hitter.
You have still not explained why moving the baseline left in a swinger (who is not a swing-hitter) will predispose to AH.
Jeff.
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Post by gmbtempe on Feb 28, 2011 12:05:57 GMT -5
A swinger doesn't use a "swing-hit force" if he is a swinger and not a swing-hitter. You have still not explained why moving the baseline left in a swinger (who is not a swing-hitter) will predispose to AH. Jeff. I dont care about this hitters, swingers, switters..............I am just saying when you move the clubhead in space. I am not a swinger, period.
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Feb 28, 2011 12:20:04 GMT -5
Even for a non-swinger (hitter), I don't understand "why moving the baseline left" will make AH easier. I think that a hitter can also easily use AH when not moving the baseline left.
Jeff.
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Post by gmbtempe on Feb 28, 2011 12:21:57 GMT -5
Even for a non-swinger (hitter), I don't understand "why moving the baseline left" will make AH easier. I think that a hitter can also easily use AH when not moving the baseline left. Jeff. Of course, right arm drive increases AH affect, we know this. I will demonstrate for you later in video...give you more ammo.
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Post by jeffy on Mar 10, 2011 22:24:35 GMT -5
Natural? As any parent can tell you, the only "natural" actions a human being performs is sucking, breathing, swallowing, letting things go out the other end, and grabbing with the hand. Everything else is learned. There is absolutely nothing about golf, baseball, throwing, eating with a fork, walking or any other activity than the ones previously listed that is "natural". Yes, there are always a handful of gifted athletes that instinctively pick up athletic motions easier than everybody else: in baseball they play shortstop and pitch; in golf they hit it long and get it close. But that is no more natural, i.e. something most everyone can do instinctively, than an IQ of 180.
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Post by aimsmithgolf on Mar 11, 2011 7:44:20 GMT -5
Natural? As any parent can tell you, the only "natural" actions a human being performs is sucking, breathing, swallowing, letting things go out the other end, and grabbing with the hand. Everything else is learned. There is absolutely nothing about golf, baseball, throwing, eating with a fork, walking or any other activity than the ones previously listed that is "natural". Yes, there are always a handful of gifted athletes that instinctively pick up athletic motions easier than everybody else: in baseball they play shortstop and pitch; in golf they hit it long and get it close. But that is no more natural, i.e. something most everyone can do instinctively, than an IQ of 180. How do you define natural? What's your definition? Natural has nothing to do with "easy". There are many movements made by the human body that are very difficult to perform but that does not mean that they are NOT a natural movement. Rand
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Post by joec on Mar 11, 2011 10:22:10 GMT -5
for the right handed naturalist..............go out tomorrow and play left handed.................then report in.
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Post by aimsmithgolf on Mar 11, 2011 13:01:05 GMT -5
for the right handed naturalist..............go out tomorrow and play left handed.................then report in. Huh? Please state your point here. The word "natural", as used in discussing the golf swing, has this definition: of nature Whether you play right or left handed or one-handed it is still a NATURAL movement. Rand
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