jeffy
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Post by jeffy on Mar 11, 2011 13:32:58 GMT -5
Natural? As any parent can tell you, the only "natural" actions a human being performs is sucking, breathing, swallowing, letting things go out the other end, and grabbing with the hand. Everything else is learned. There is absolutely nothing about golf, baseball, throwing, eating with a fork, walking or any other activity than the ones previously listed that is "natural". Yes, there are always a handful of gifted athletes that instinctively pick up athletic motions easier than everybody else: in baseball they play shortstop and pitch; in golf they hit it long and get it close. But that is no more natural, i.e. something most everyone can do instinctively, than an IQ of 180. How do you define natural? What's your definition? Natural has nothing to do with "easy". There are many movements made by the human body that are very difficult to perform but that does not mean that they are NOT a natural movement. Rand I define a "natural" movement as one that is instinctive and does not have to be learned. I listed what I thought were all done by babies out of the womb, i.e. naturally, but forgot blinking and crying. In other words, a movement that has to be learned through observation or taught would not fit my definition of "natural". Certainly a golfer like Annika Sorenstom, who began golf instruction at a young age, has nothing "natural" in her swing. I think the closest thing to a "natural" golf swing would be one learned without any instruction. Sadly, amateur golf is littered with such poor souls. Of world class players, Bubba Watson claims to be entirely self-taught, so one could call his swing "natural" in that it was taught, but he no doubt observed accomplished golfers and picked up things through observation. Of course, at number 1 in driving distance and GIRs, Bubba arguably has the best swing on tour, which says something about the state of golf instruction.
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Post by aimsmithgolf on Mar 11, 2011 16:48:14 GMT -5
How do you define natural? What's your definition? Natural has nothing to do with "easy". There are many movements made by the human body that are very difficult to perform but that does not mean that they are NOT a natural movement. Rand I define a "natural" movement as one that is instinctive and does not have to be learned. I listed what I thought were all done by babies out of the womb, i.e. naturally, but forgot blinking and crying. In other words, a movement that has to be learned through observation or taught would not fit my definition of "natural". Certainly a golfer like Annika Sorenstom, who began golf instruction at a young age, has nothing "natural" in her swing. I think the closest thing to a "natural" golf swing would be one learned without any instruction. Sadly, amateur golf is littered with such poor souls. Of world class players, Bubba Watson claims to be entirely self-taught, so one could call his swing "natural" in that it was taught, but he no doubt observed accomplished golfers and picked up things through observation. Of course, at number 1 in driving distance and GIRs, Bubba arguably has the best swing on tour, which says something about the state of golf instruction. The golf swing is primarily a natural action. All the movements in a golf swing are natural movements that the body makes. What is a "natural stance" ?? Feet shoulder width apart with weight balanced toward the balls of your feet. What is the natural movement of the arms in the golf swing? Up and down. I can go on and on here. Perhaps the biggest obstacle the golfer has to playing the game well is their refusal to believe that the golf swing is made up largely of natural movements. Think about it.... Rand
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jeffy
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Post by jeffy on Mar 11, 2011 17:16:37 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but this is sophistry: what you are saying is simply that a golf swing by a human must accomodate the limitations of the human body. If that means it is "natural" to you, OK.
I think that the biggest obstacle to playing well is that the game is hard and the current state of golf knowledge and instruction isn't very good.
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joec
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Post by joec on Mar 25, 2011 14:37:11 GMT -5
aimsmith, march is almost over. you stated you would be giving us some important info in march. i know march it is not over yet. but i did not want you to forget about us.
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Post by aimsmithgolf on Mar 25, 2011 20:42:22 GMT -5
joec, Wow...which one? Hogan's secret? Rand
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Post by aimsmithgolf on Mar 25, 2011 21:03:37 GMT -5
joec,
You mean the one regarding the framework for instructing the beginner or high handicapper to learn the game online?? I have done some practice videos on that and will be introducing them. I got caught up in another project and set it aside. Maybe it would be a good idea to go ahead and give the outline of it to get some feedback before the end of the month...hhhmmmm
And the Hogan's secret... will finish that one up to because I have to work the Senior event here starting Thursday. oh and I have to get my post on that up too.... Yee haaa...
Rand
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