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Post by youngsiwalker on Dec 5, 2010 18:39:38 GMT -5
Ive heard a few comments on youtube regarding strickers takeaway leading to an OTT move, can anyone explain why to me ? I dont really understand why it would. His swing below www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZTQa0W0WJk&NR=1&feature=fvwpAlso is his takeaway different to most in the fact that his arms seem to stay away from his body, is this disconnection what causes the OTT move ?
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 5, 2010 18:45:44 GMT -5
I have no clue about that, never heard that either.
I will say its not a very powerful swing but it leads to lots of good alignments.
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Post by youngsiwalker on Dec 5, 2010 18:56:33 GMT -5
Possibly just clueless tv analysts but definetly heard it, didnt get myself when so many say his shot is a draw naturally but hey who.
In your opinion why would his swing not be very powerful ?
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 5, 2010 19:07:32 GMT -5
Possibly just clueless tv analysts but definetly heard it, didnt get myself when so many say his shot is a draw naturally but hey who. In your opinion why would his swing not be very powerful ? Well while he is a big guy he just does not have the elements that I associate with power, and there are many ways people use to get it. I dont see alot of ground force, there is no float loading, his does not employ much of a snap release. Moderate amount of lag. Goes at it relatively easy compared to say a Phil or Tiger who "hit". I think he has all universe short game and on the greens, without that he would be selling used cars in Milwaukee.
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Post by youngsiwalker on Dec 5, 2010 19:21:48 GMT -5
I see what your saying, its pretty mad he can hit it as far as he does without those things.
I know his short game is excellent, his long game must be pretty good though, i thought he was leading driving stats for a while he was world no.3.
Id certainly take his long game right now !!!!
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 5, 2010 19:31:27 GMT -5
He is accurate to no end and can putt, this may be a strong statement but I think he is wildly overrated.
There is the camp that will say well he gets a lot out of his talent which may be true but he just is a good player but hardly great. I think he only has a handful of top 10's in majors and he has played in lots of them. I think in the majors his ability to hit the ball a long way and to hit irons high into the harder greens really hurts him and that is definitely a power issue.
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Dec 6, 2010 10:24:25 GMT -5
Greg,
You wrote regarding SS-: "There is the camp that will say well he gets a lot out of his talent which may be true but he just is a good player but hardly great."
We have a different threshold for using the word "great" with respect to a golf swing. I think that any golfer who can qualify to play on any of the tours is a great golfer. To be able to score between 60-80 on those tough PGA tour courses is phenomenal by my more relaxed standard for using the word "great".
Jeff.
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Post by wedgey on Dec 6, 2010 10:34:28 GMT -5
Stricker may not be a long hitter but he is definetly not wildly over rated. He came from the abyss to #2 in the world and no one handed it to him he earned it. There's lot's of long hitters that wish they had his not so great tag. I met him once in the late 90's at the Buick Inv. at LaJolla, super nice guy and a credit to the sport, in that respect he's great in my eyes.
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 6, 2010 10:59:26 GMT -5
Stricker may not be a long hitter but he is definetly not wildly over rated. He came from the abyss to #2 in the world and no one handed it to him he earned it. There's lot's of long hitters that wish they had his not so great tag. I met him once in the late 90's at the Buick Inv. at LaJolla, super nice guy and a credit to the sport, in that respect he's great in my eyes. He was a multi year all american in college, he definitely was expected to be a very good player as a professional. It was more an oddity that he struggled in his career early on. I don't like over using the term great. Anyone who has not won a major or even a Players has a tough time being great in my book. He may have a great golf swing though. They are an apples and oranges discussion.
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Post by wedgey on Dec 6, 2010 11:46:50 GMT -5
Stricker may not be a long hitter but he is definetly not wildly over rated. He came from the abyss to #2 in the world and no one handed it to him he earned it. There's lot's of long hitters that wish they had his not so great tag. I met him once in the late 90's at the Buick Inv. at LaJolla, super nice guy and a credit to the sport, in that respect he's great in my eyes. He was a multi year all american in college, he definitely was expected to be a very good player as a professional. It was more an oddity that he struggled in his career early on. I don't like over using the term great. Anyone who has not won a major or even a Players has a tough time being great in my book. He may have a great golf swing though. They are an apples and oranges discussion. [/quote It's others ,whoever they are ,that throw around the term "great" and i think Stricker would be the first to say he isn't great compared to the greats, but he certaintly isn't wildly overated i haven't heard that, just that he has overcome some dark times to be successful again and the media and people in general like those kinds of stories. Regardless, he may not be flashy or "great" but he has a lot of what it takes to succeed in a tough sport and i think that's great.
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 6, 2010 11:53:23 GMT -5
I have heard many people, like several threads over the past two years at GWX say he is a better player then Mickelson, its talk like that which make me think, "dudes good but cmon".
Right now there are only 4 or 5 active great players in my book, Tiger, Phil, Vijay and Els. I guess guys like Furyk, Goosen, Cink are borderline.
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Post by wedgey on Dec 6, 2010 13:00:58 GMT -5
I have heard many people, like several threads over the past two years at GWX say he is a better player then Mickelson, its talk like that which make me think, "dudes good but cmon". Right now there are only 4 or 5 active great players in my book, Tiger, Phil, Vijay and Els. I guess guys like Furyk, Goosen, Cink are borderline. I would say it would be a tough argument to say Stricker is a better player than Mickelson , you think Cink is borderline great? If Westwood could win a Major i would rate him ahead of Cink, maybe even if he doesn't JMO.
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 6, 2010 13:24:13 GMT -5
I have heard many people, like several threads over the past two years at GWX say he is a better player then Mickelson, its talk like that which make me think, "dudes good but cmon". Right now there are only 4 or 5 active great players in my book, Tiger, Phil, Vijay and Els. I guess guys like Furyk, Goosen, Cink are borderline. I would say it would be a tough argument to say Stricker is a better player than Mickelson , you think Cink is borderline great? If Westwood could win a Major i would rate him ahead of Cink, maybe even if he doesn't JMO. Westwood is playing great right now for sure, so is McDowell. Need a little more time.
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Post by wedgey on Dec 6, 2010 13:38:29 GMT -5
Yeah i hope to see some good battles this coming year on the tours, can't wait.
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