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Post by natep on Dec 10, 2010 0:22:06 GMT -5
So the pre-selected hinge action does affect the pre-impact orientation of the clubface?
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Dec 10, 2010 0:27:31 GMT -5
Yes.
Jeff.
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Post by machinestacker on Dec 10, 2010 7:03:05 GMT -5
RESOUNDINGLY YES!
EC
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daryl
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Post by daryl on Dec 10, 2010 8:21:46 GMT -5
Sustaining the "Line of Compression" is the means by which the Ball will respond to an Angular Force as it does to a Linear Force. Hinging, is the method to control the "Line of Compression". The "Line of Compression" determines the Balls Axis of Rotation. By changing the Clubface Axis of Rotation, we affect the Balls Axis of Rotation. Hitters, inherently "Angle Hinge" because their Right Forearm Rotates about an Axis perpendicular the the Angled Plane. Swingers, inherently "Horizontal Hinge" because their Right Forearm rotates around an Axis perpendicular the the Horizontal Plane. Each is a very simple procedure because neither of the Inherent Hinges requires any Hand Manipulation. Therefore, the Axis of Rotation is the inherent outcome of Radial or Longitudinal Acceleration respectively. Each will show that the Left Wrist will Roll through the Impact Interval without Rolling the Right Wrist. The beauty is in it's simplicity. Hinging is not about the Clubface Closing Rate, which is a manipulation of the Release Interval. Hinging is about the Axis of Rotation of the Clubface. The images below illustrate the difference of the Axis of Rotation of the Paddlewheel Motion of the Right Forearm for Horizontal and Angled Hinging. If you're a Swinger, then you're only concerned with the image on the Left. It's much easier to Teach than to view the drawings and understand. But, it is important to understand how and that the Right Forearm returns to its Angle of Approach for Impact.
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Dec 10, 2010 10:21:09 GMT -5
Daryl,
What does this statement mean-: "The "Line of Compression" determines the Balls Axis of Rotation."
What do you mean by the ball's axis of rotation?
Also, if that axis of rotation is altered by different hinging actions, how is that accomplished and what effect will it have on ball flight?
Jeff.
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Post by daryl on Dec 10, 2010 12:30:08 GMT -5
Daryl, 1. What does this statement mean-: "The "Line of Compression" determines the Balls Axis of Rotation." 2. What do you mean by the ball's axis of rotation? 3. Also, if that axis of rotation is altered by different hinging actions, how is that accomplished and what effect will it have on ball flight? Jeff. 2.) The Golf Ball has a Center of Gravity. Rotation is 2 dimensional around the Center of Gravity Axis. A Bicycle wheel has an Axel located at the wheels center of gravity. When the wheel spins, it does so around the Axel. The Axis of rotation is perpendicular to the spin. 1.) Lets consider a "Linear Force". If we mount a Striker to the head of an air ram, the ball will be struck with a linear force. This means that the point on the ball that made first contact with the striker and the separation point when the ball separated from the striker are the same point. Those two points are separated by a small distance. If you connect those two point with a straight line, then you'll be observing the direction of the "Line of Compression". If the Line of Compression passes through the center of gravity of the ball, then the ball will not spin. If you tilt the Striker to represent the loft of a club face, then the Line of compression will pass through the balls center of gravity on the vertical plane but on a parallel line below the center of gravity on the horizontal plane. The Ball will have Backspin but the Axis of rotation will not be tilted. Notice that the impact and separation points are on the same vertical plane passing through the balls center of gravity. Unfortunately, in the example above, the Impact Point and separation point are not the same point on the Golf Ball. This results in a curved line of compression. So, there is a loss of compression. Fortunately for us, the Clubhead is orbiting and when the ball is struck, it also comes under the Law of Centrifugal Force. This force can help sustain the line of compression insofar that the Impact and Separation points remain the same. 3.) Hinging will make the ball respond as though it were struck with a linear force but with the improved dynamics introduced by Centrifugal Force. This is very different than Angular Force which most golfers apply to the ball while the Clubface is maintaining a relationship to the path of the Clubhead,,,the so called "normal face to path" relationship with its shifting impact and separation points because of glancing blow and impact roll of the ball on the inclined striker. It's too hard to type out Hinging. But if you have "Skype" or some video internet connection, then we can talk on the phone and I'll take you through all of the Hinging alignments. It won't take longer than 1/2 hour or so. Then, you can teach it to the world with an On-Line video presentation. Let me know if you're willing to do that.
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Dec 10, 2010 13:04:35 GMT -5
Daryl,
Nothing that you have written makes sense to me.
Contact me at jeffmanngolfer@gmail.com, and we can arrange a Skype call.
I will be away for 5 days starting on Sunday, so we can arrange to have a Skype video call before that date, or afterwards.
Jeff.
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Post by joec on Dec 10, 2010 18:43:00 GMT -5
per slicefixer, if you are as slinger, you must roll the wrists. if you hit with leverage, you damn sure better not roll them. ah and hh are used depending on the release you have selected. ther is no active uncock and roll in a leveraged swing. therefore, hh is useless knowledge for me. however, if i was a slinger, i would need to know about it. just my opinion.
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