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Post by imperfectgolfer on Aug 15, 2012 18:21:00 GMT -5
See this Jeffy forum thread. jeffygolf.com/showthread.php?411-Up-and-Coming-Senior-Long-Drive-Champion/page6Jeffy is arguing with Birly Shirly and Jeffy believes that his latest swing guru (KM) has discovered optimal swing biomechanics based on his ground-breaking research (studying swing videos). Jeffy always insists on "evidence" but what "evidence" does he present that KM has discovered optimal swing biomechanics? I don't believe that KM's biomechanical explanations make sense, and I believe that Jeffy simply believes them based on personal/arbitrary choice. I think that Birly Shirly is correct to infer that Jeffy has a strong propensity to latch onto golf instructors who present opinions that appeal to his personal thinking-of-the-day - originally it was Jim Hardy and now it is KM. Tomorrow - who knows! I would like to see Jeffy delineate in detail what is optimum about Bubba Watson's golf swing biomechanics. Jeff.
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Aug 15, 2012 19:56:06 GMT -5
Jeffy made the following claim in his forum's thread a few hours ago.
"Let me put it this way: what Kelvin has researched and documented encompasses everything in every other method, in universal anatomical terms. But none of those other methods captures everything Kelvin has identified and documented: they all fall short, typically missing things entirely, misinterpreting things and failing to name elements with satisfactory precision."
Jeffy is entitled to his biased personal opinion, but does any other forum member believe that his personal opinion has any logical/rational validity. Please present your "evidence".
Jeff.
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Post by tomdavis76 on Aug 15, 2012 21:36:04 GMT -5
See this Jeffy forum thread. jeffygolf.com/showthread.php?411-Up-and-Coming-Senior-Long-Drive-Champion/page6Jeffy is arguing with Birly Shirly and Jeffy believes that his latest swing guru (KM) has discovered optimal swing biomechanics based on his ground-breaking research (studying swing videos). Jeffy always insists on "evidence" but what "evidence" does he present that KM has discovered optimal swing biomechanics? I don't believe that KM's biomechanical explanations make sense, and I believe that Jeffy simply believes them based on personal/arbitrary choice. I think that Birly Shirly is correct to infer that Jeffy has a strong propensity to latch onto golf instructors who present opinions that appeal to his personal thinking-of-the-day - originally it was Jim Hardy and now it is KM. Tomorrow - who knows! I would like to see Jeffy delineate in detail what is optimum about Bubba Watson's golf swing biomechanics. Jeff. Don't hold your breath. If you want to know, Kelvin has laid it all out. Here are some stats that support my belief that I am happy to provide, however: In Richie's Advanced Total Driving stat, Bubba is currently ranked number 1. In Richie's Danger Zone ranking, Bubba is ranked 4th. On PGA tour stats, Bubba is ranked 2nd in GIRs. I've got Bubba, who you got? Jeff
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Post by tomdavis76 on Aug 15, 2012 22:08:20 GMT -5
Jeffy made the following claim in his forum's thread a few hours ago. " Let me put it this way: what Kelvin has researched and documented encompasses everything in every other method, in universal anatomical terms. But none of those other methods captures everything Kelvin has identified and documented: they all fall short, typically missing things entirely, misinterpreting things and failing to name elements with satisfactory precision." Jeffy is entitled to his biased personal opinion, but does any other forum member believe that his personal opinion has any logical/rational validity. Please present your "evidence". Jeff. I have a better idea. Why don't you go through Kelvin's published research and let us know what he has missed?
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Aug 15, 2012 23:05:11 GMT -5
I asked Jeffy to describe Bubba Watson's optimal biomechanics.
This is how he responded-: "Don't hold your breath. If you want to know, Kelvin has laid it all out.
Here are some stats that support my belief that I am happy to provide, however:
In Richie's Advanced Total Driving stat, Bubba is currently ranked number 1. In Richie's Danger Zone ranking, Bubba is ranked 4th. On PGA tour stats, Bubba is ranked 2nd in GIRs.
I've got Bubba, who you got?"
As per usual, it's a typical non-informative response. Telling me that "Kelvin has laid it all out" is a non-response because it provides no details.
Bubba's advanced driving stats is meaningless because of two factors - i) it only represents a single year's results and it doesn't reflect decades of driving consistency (ala Hogan) and ii) it may only reflect an individual ability to generate good ball-striking results despite non-optimum biomechanics (as Butch Harmon suggested).
Jeffy also wrote-: "I have a better idea. Why don't you go through Kelvin's published research and let us know what he has missed?"
I think that KM doesn't begin to understand the difference between swinging versus hitting, and he doesn't really understand how power is generated in a golf swing (via the loading and release of power accumulators). He also doesn't understand how PA#3 release is used to square the clubface. I think that his explanations regarding hand release actions are biomechanically incoherent (as I explained in my review paper on hand release actions). In general, I think that he gets the biomechanics of pelvic motion wrong and I also think that his many micro-moves are minor elements that only pertain to certain golfers.
If any forum member can point-out a ground-breaking insight that KM has originated, then please let me know what it is and please explain why you believe that it is ground-breaking.
Jeff.
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