Post by imperfectgolfer on Oct 2, 2012 14:24:56 GMT -5
See this BM-forum thread.
www.brianmanzella.com/golfing-discussions/17706-rory-under-plane.html
I believe that the BM-groupies have no idea what "being underplane" means.
Lia wrote-: "Furthermore, to zero out with a positive angle of attack the path must be inside-out, correct? That inside-out path is what I consider "under"".
He believes that "being underplane" is swinging inside-out. That's BS!
Here I am demonstrating a club moving on the surface of the inclined plane. The clubshaft is on-plane bcause it is riding along the surface of the inclined plane (plane board) and the peripheral end of the club is tracing a SPL (always pointing at the base of the inclined plane).
The clubhead is obviously generating an in-to-out clubhead path from P6 to P7 and it is not underplane when performing that action.
DSschultz wrote-: "I think it's when you draw the lines from the original shaft position and if it goes under that they call it under".
That's BS. The original shaft plane is usually the hand plane adopted at address. A golfer can choose to swing on a steeper plane between P6 and P7.5 and still not be underplane if the peripheral end of his club still traces a SPL (base of the steeper inclined plane) between P6 and P7.5.
Kevin Shields wrote-: "Under only means hitting it fat".
That's unbelievable idiocy! How can he be so wrong-headed about a simple swing concept!!! One can hit it fat with a underplane or on-plane swing and it only means that the clubhead has reached the ground before it reaches the natural low point (which is under the left shoulder socket).
Ringer wrote-: "I think of it more as just a shifted plane.
You can either shift your plane line out to the right, or you can drop down to a flatter plane."
He is wrong-headed (as per usual). One can obvioulsy shift the base of the inclined plane to the left-or-right, but that doesn't imply an underplane or overplane swing action if the clubshaft travels on (parallel to) the shifted inclined plane and if it continuously traces a SPL (base of the shifted plane).
Jeff.
www.brianmanzella.com/golfing-discussions/17706-rory-under-plane.html
I believe that the BM-groupies have no idea what "being underplane" means.
Lia wrote-: "Furthermore, to zero out with a positive angle of attack the path must be inside-out, correct? That inside-out path is what I consider "under"".
He believes that "being underplane" is swinging inside-out. That's BS!
Here I am demonstrating a club moving on the surface of the inclined plane. The clubshaft is on-plane bcause it is riding along the surface of the inclined plane (plane board) and the peripheral end of the club is tracing a SPL (always pointing at the base of the inclined plane).
The clubhead is obviously generating an in-to-out clubhead path from P6 to P7 and it is not underplane when performing that action.
DSschultz wrote-: "I think it's when you draw the lines from the original shaft position and if it goes under that they call it under".
That's BS. The original shaft plane is usually the hand plane adopted at address. A golfer can choose to swing on a steeper plane between P6 and P7.5 and still not be underplane if the peripheral end of his club still traces a SPL (base of the steeper inclined plane) between P6 and P7.5.
Kevin Shields wrote-: "Under only means hitting it fat".
That's unbelievable idiocy! How can he be so wrong-headed about a simple swing concept!!! One can hit it fat with a underplane or on-plane swing and it only means that the clubhead has reached the ground before it reaches the natural low point (which is under the left shoulder socket).
Ringer wrote-: "I think of it more as just a shifted plane.
You can either shift your plane line out to the right, or you can drop down to a flatter plane."
He is wrong-headed (as per usual). One can obvioulsy shift the base of the inclined plane to the left-or-right, but that doesn't imply an underplane or overplane swing action if the clubshaft travels on (parallel to) the shifted inclined plane and if it continuously traces a SPL (base of the shifted plane).
Jeff.