Post by imperfectgolfer on Dec 16, 2010 22:09:21 GMT -5
Dan C wrote the following in 3jack's forum.
"Read TGM of wrist conditions. Level is when the top of wrist, near thumb, is level with forearm. Can cocked, level or uncocked
On the elbow plane it never needs to/should reach uncocked. Cocks in backswing and returns to level at impact then recocks post impact. Uncocked would only be for TSP."
I disagree!
Level is when a line drawn along the radial side of the index finger is straight-in-line with a line drawn along the radial side of the left forearm.
I have never heard of anybody use the term "recock". I have no idea what it means. A golfer goes from an upcocked left wrist position at the end-backswing to a level left wrist position at impact to a fully uncocked left wrist condition at the end of the followthrough - irrespective of whether his impact plane is the elbow plane or the TSP.
Dan C also wrote-: "This is why uncocking offers no added speed. Uncocking zeros out pa3. Level wrist uses both 2 and 3. Once wrist uncocks all 3 does is roll face, there is zero travel of the clubhead and therefore no power added"
I think that Dan is clueless about certain aspects of a PA#3 action.
First of all, a PA#3 release action refers to the supinatory roll of the left forearm and therefore the intact LAFW pre-impact - prior to a complete uncocking of the left wrist (which happens in the plane of the LAFW). Because it happens within the plane of the LAFW, uncocking of the left wrist has no effect on the release of PA#3.
He is mixing up two different concepts - i) the accumulator #3 angle, which is the angle between the clubshaft and left forearm at address, and which primarily depends on the left hand's grip pattern. A mid-palmar grip zeroes out the accumulator #3 angle while a finger grip exaggerates this angle. ii) the loading and release of PA#3, which is due to a left forearm pronatory action in the backswing and a left forearm supinatory action in the downswing. During the release of PA#3, the amount of clubhead travel will be greater if the accumulator #3 angle adopted at address is greater, and be much smaller if the accumulator #3 angle is significantly decreased (by adopting a left hand mid-palmar grip). Moe Norman used very little accumulator #3 angle in his swing action, which explains why his left arm and clubshaft were in nearly a straight line condition at address, and at impact.
Jeff.
"Read TGM of wrist conditions. Level is when the top of wrist, near thumb, is level with forearm. Can cocked, level or uncocked
On the elbow plane it never needs to/should reach uncocked. Cocks in backswing and returns to level at impact then recocks post impact. Uncocked would only be for TSP."
I disagree!
Level is when a line drawn along the radial side of the index finger is straight-in-line with a line drawn along the radial side of the left forearm.
I have never heard of anybody use the term "recock". I have no idea what it means. A golfer goes from an upcocked left wrist position at the end-backswing to a level left wrist position at impact to a fully uncocked left wrist condition at the end of the followthrough - irrespective of whether his impact plane is the elbow plane or the TSP.
Dan C also wrote-: "This is why uncocking offers no added speed. Uncocking zeros out pa3. Level wrist uses both 2 and 3. Once wrist uncocks all 3 does is roll face, there is zero travel of the clubhead and therefore no power added"
I think that Dan is clueless about certain aspects of a PA#3 action.
First of all, a PA#3 release action refers to the supinatory roll of the left forearm and therefore the intact LAFW pre-impact - prior to a complete uncocking of the left wrist (which happens in the plane of the LAFW). Because it happens within the plane of the LAFW, uncocking of the left wrist has no effect on the release of PA#3.
He is mixing up two different concepts - i) the accumulator #3 angle, which is the angle between the clubshaft and left forearm at address, and which primarily depends on the left hand's grip pattern. A mid-palmar grip zeroes out the accumulator #3 angle while a finger grip exaggerates this angle. ii) the loading and release of PA#3, which is due to a left forearm pronatory action in the backswing and a left forearm supinatory action in the downswing. During the release of PA#3, the amount of clubhead travel will be greater if the accumulator #3 angle adopted at address is greater, and be much smaller if the accumulator #3 angle is significantly decreased (by adopting a left hand mid-palmar grip). Moe Norman used very little accumulator #3 angle in his swing action, which explains why his left arm and clubshaft were in nearly a straight line condition at address, and at impact.
Jeff.