Post by imperfectgolfer on May 13, 2013 10:44:42 GMT -5
I have basically lost interest in participating in golf forums because I have stopped learning anything new. I believe that I have worked out the mechanics/biomechanics of the full golf swing, which I have described in my review papers. I am tired of attacking the wrong-headed opinions expressed by golf instructors - like KM and BM. Howwever, I couldn't resist criticising the irrational opinions expressed by Jeffy in this Jeffy-forum thread - jeffygolf.com/showthread.php?698-So-where-s-the-closed-hip-slide-Sean-Andy-Bueller
Jeffy posted this photo.
Jeffy wrote-: "I LOVE the one on the left!".
Amazing!
I don't object to the fact that the left arm is on a slightly steeper angle, but I think that she is crossing-the-line because she has opened up her left hand grip (causing the grip to lose contact with the lower left palm) and she has also dorsiflexed her left hand (thereby destroying the structural integrity of her LAFW) and this biomechanical action is combined with a straightening of her right wrist. I think that this "left hand action" is a major swing fault that should be avoided. It is OK to have the left arm on a steeper angle at the P4 position, like Keegan Bradley, but he keeps his LAFW intact.
Note that KB has an intact LAFW at the P4 position.
Jeffy also wrote-: "Promoting a flat, laid off position at the top makes it more difficult to lay the club off in transition through right shoulder external rotation and right arm transverse adduction and get the right elbow in front of the chest --- Probably the player who has influenced the "laid off at the top" fashion the most, Sergio Garcia. He sure is laid off at the top of his backswing. But where does his right elbow go in the downswing? Not in front of the chest in the most stable position. Nope, down at his side and in a great position to flip and roll."
It is a BS opinion to believe that one cannot easily get the right elbow in front of the chest from a flat left arm position at P4. SG doesn't choose to move his right elbow down in front of his chest (like KB) and he chooses to adduct his right arm close to his right side between P4 and P5 and that gets his right right elbow alongside, and slightly behind, his right hip. From that position, he simply rotates his lower-mid torso into impact without ever getting stuck.
Only a golfer, who doesn't clearly understand golf swing biomechanics, would think that SG gets "stuck" in his downswing action. One can prefer KB's right elbow motion, but that doesn't mean that an alternative choice (ala SG) of right elbow motion is wrong.
Jeffy also believes that Yani has a different transition action than Hogan.
I believe that there is negligible difference - they both have their left arm across their shoulder turn angle at the P4 position and they both shallow the clubshaft between P4 and P5.
Jeff.
Jeffy posted this photo.
Jeffy wrote-: "I LOVE the one on the left!".
Amazing!
I don't object to the fact that the left arm is on a slightly steeper angle, but I think that she is crossing-the-line because she has opened up her left hand grip (causing the grip to lose contact with the lower left palm) and she has also dorsiflexed her left hand (thereby destroying the structural integrity of her LAFW) and this biomechanical action is combined with a straightening of her right wrist. I think that this "left hand action" is a major swing fault that should be avoided. It is OK to have the left arm on a steeper angle at the P4 position, like Keegan Bradley, but he keeps his LAFW intact.
Note that KB has an intact LAFW at the P4 position.
Jeffy also wrote-: "Promoting a flat, laid off position at the top makes it more difficult to lay the club off in transition through right shoulder external rotation and right arm transverse adduction and get the right elbow in front of the chest --- Probably the player who has influenced the "laid off at the top" fashion the most, Sergio Garcia. He sure is laid off at the top of his backswing. But where does his right elbow go in the downswing? Not in front of the chest in the most stable position. Nope, down at his side and in a great position to flip and roll."
It is a BS opinion to believe that one cannot easily get the right elbow in front of the chest from a flat left arm position at P4. SG doesn't choose to move his right elbow down in front of his chest (like KB) and he chooses to adduct his right arm close to his right side between P4 and P5 and that gets his right right elbow alongside, and slightly behind, his right hip. From that position, he simply rotates his lower-mid torso into impact without ever getting stuck.
Only a golfer, who doesn't clearly understand golf swing biomechanics, would think that SG gets "stuck" in his downswing action. One can prefer KB's right elbow motion, but that doesn't mean that an alternative choice (ala SG) of right elbow motion is wrong.
Jeffy also believes that Yani has a different transition action than Hogan.
I believe that there is negligible difference - they both have their left arm across their shoulder turn angle at the P4 position and they both shallow the clubshaft between P4 and P5.
Jeff.