Post by imperfectgolfer on Dec 3, 2010 12:55:16 GMT -5
Here is an animated gif showing Alvaros Quiros early downswing action
A forum member at 3jack's forum stated with respect to AQ's downswing action-: "That swing is very flat and laid off with him going even more flat and laid off to start the forward swing. Watch as his right elbow goes from about even with his left arm to below his left arm."
Another forum member stated-: "Quiros looks pretty with that swing but I agree with "X"....also looks like he is very much dependent on timing which would explain some of his inconsistentcy."
I respectfully disagree.
I do not think that his backswing is too flat. He has a significant amount of bend at the hips and his shoulder turn angle is relatively horizontal, which is perfectly acceptable for a golfer who has that degree of spinal bend. Also, his left arm is across his shoulder turn angle at the end-backswing, which is very common in modern day golfers. His clubshaft is straight-in-line with his left arm, which is perfect - and that means that he has an intact LAFW at his end-backswing position. That's ideal.
The first critic stated that his downswing clubshaft angle is too flat and that his right elbow drops below his left arm. I think that it must happen if a golfer wants to shallow the clubshaft from the TSP to a lower plane (eg. elbow plane) by the delivery position.
Here is posed photo of Ben Hogan showing his early downswing action.
Note how he has dropped his right elbow to below the level of his left arm/elbow.
Here are capture images from a video of Ben Hogan's live swing.
Note that Hogan's right elbow is well below his left arm/elbow during the slotting of the power package. That's an ideal action because one should be driving the right elbow towards its pitch location in front of the right hip area in the early downswing.
I have no idea why the second forum member would state that this type of swing action will depend more on "timing".
Finally, here is Sergio Garcia's downswing action.
Note that he also has a flat, laid-off clubshaft angle at his end-backswing position.
Note how his right elbow drops down at the start of the downswing, and how that action causes his clubshaft to shallow-out to the elbow plane even faster than Hogan's shallowing action. How fast the clubshaft shallows-out between the end-backswing position and the delivery position is optional. SG is at one extreme, because he drops his LAFW downwards immediately, while Hogan and Tiger Woods drop their LAFW down more gradually.
Here is Tiger Woods early downswing action.
Note that TW's right elbow also drops down below his left arm/elbow. It must happen if one wants the RFFW to maintain its "correct" relationship to the LAFW during the power package slotting stage.
Jeff.
A forum member at 3jack's forum stated with respect to AQ's downswing action-: "That swing is very flat and laid off with him going even more flat and laid off to start the forward swing. Watch as his right elbow goes from about even with his left arm to below his left arm."
Another forum member stated-: "Quiros looks pretty with that swing but I agree with "X"....also looks like he is very much dependent on timing which would explain some of his inconsistentcy."
I respectfully disagree.
I do not think that his backswing is too flat. He has a significant amount of bend at the hips and his shoulder turn angle is relatively horizontal, which is perfectly acceptable for a golfer who has that degree of spinal bend. Also, his left arm is across his shoulder turn angle at the end-backswing, which is very common in modern day golfers. His clubshaft is straight-in-line with his left arm, which is perfect - and that means that he has an intact LAFW at his end-backswing position. That's ideal.
The first critic stated that his downswing clubshaft angle is too flat and that his right elbow drops below his left arm. I think that it must happen if a golfer wants to shallow the clubshaft from the TSP to a lower plane (eg. elbow plane) by the delivery position.
Here is posed photo of Ben Hogan showing his early downswing action.
Note how he has dropped his right elbow to below the level of his left arm/elbow.
Here are capture images from a video of Ben Hogan's live swing.
Note that Hogan's right elbow is well below his left arm/elbow during the slotting of the power package. That's an ideal action because one should be driving the right elbow towards its pitch location in front of the right hip area in the early downswing.
I have no idea why the second forum member would state that this type of swing action will depend more on "timing".
Finally, here is Sergio Garcia's downswing action.
Note that he also has a flat, laid-off clubshaft angle at his end-backswing position.
Note how his right elbow drops down at the start of the downswing, and how that action causes his clubshaft to shallow-out to the elbow plane even faster than Hogan's shallowing action. How fast the clubshaft shallows-out between the end-backswing position and the delivery position is optional. SG is at one extreme, because he drops his LAFW downwards immediately, while Hogan and Tiger Woods drop their LAFW down more gradually.
Here is Tiger Woods early downswing action.
Note that TW's right elbow also drops down below his left arm/elbow. It must happen if one wants the RFFW to maintain its "correct" relationship to the LAFW during the power package slotting stage.
Jeff.