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Post by imperfectgolfer on Dec 14, 2023 11:24:05 GMT -5
Watch this video of BD teaching Rich Shiels. BD is teaching Rick how to perform a full iron golf swing action where the hands are ahead of the clubhead at impact creating a condition of forward shaft lean and where low point happens immediately post-impact. I agree with BD that it is the optimum way to ensure a solid golf ball strike - in contrast to picking the ball off the turf. Interestingly, BD does not really discuss the biomechanical motions needed, other than stating that the trail hand must get passed the lead foot through impact and where one transfers weight-pressure to the lead foot.
What impressed me most about this video was how good BD is when hitting golf balls in a bunker where he has drawn a line in the sand - where every practice strike in a sequence of 10 practice strikes starts exactly at the level of the line and where the sand divot has the same depth. By contrast, Rick (who is apparently a skilled amateur golfer who can usually shoot <75) is more inconsistent as to the placement of the start of his divot, and where the divot has different depths. It goes to show how superbly skilled PGA tour golfers are when compared to skilled amateur golfers. Jeff.
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Post by dubiousgolfer on Dec 15, 2023 19:34:53 GMT -5
Yes, BD was very impressive with his accuracy creating divots out of the bunker just after the drawn lines. I'm still unsure why a more downward angle of attack has any effect on the compression of the ball?
DG
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Dec 15, 2023 23:14:27 GMT -5
Yes, BD was very impressive with his accuracy creating divots out of the bunker just after the drawn lines. I'm still unsure why a more downward angle of attack has any effect on the compression of the ball? DG I don't believe that there is greater ball compression if the clubshaft has forward shaft lean at impact. It just ensures that the leading edge gets under the ball's equator and better ensures that the ball is struck with the clubface's sweetspot and not the leading edge. Of course, it also ensures that one is not flipping through impact, which can happen if one is a "picker". An even greater degree of forward shaft lean decreases the dynamic loft of the clubface, which can result in a lower ball flight and greater ball carry distance. Jeff.
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Post by dubiousgolfer on Dec 16, 2023 6:05:16 GMT -5
Yes, BD was very impressive with his accuracy creating divots out of the bunker just after the drawn lines. I'm still unsure why a more downward angle of attack has any effect on the compression of the ball? DG I don't believe that there is greater ball compression if the clubshaft has forward shaft lean at impact. It just ensures that the leading edge gets under the ball's equator and better ensures that the ball is struck with the clubface's sweetspot and not the leading edge. Of course, it also ensures that one is not flipping through impact, which can happen if one is a "picker". An even greater degree of forward shaft lean decreases the dynamic loft of the clubface, which can result in a lower ball flight and greater ball carry distance. Jeff. Dr Mann - many thanks .
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Post by richie3jack on Dec 16, 2023 15:47:07 GMT -5
I'm not trying to bash Rick Shiels, but even he would admit that he's not been able to break 75 with any conisstency. I also believe he is a professional (given how the USGA took away Brendon DeVore's amateur status, I can't imagine Shiels still has amateur status).
I've found that hitting out of fairway bunkers for practice is a fantastic way to improve your swing. Problem is that there are very few practice fairway bunkers. Mac O'Grady was the one that turned me onto this. There used to be a video on YouTube of Mac getting incredible compression out of a fairway bunker, but I can't find it.
But as far as teaching balance and controlling the low point, it's about as good of a way to practice as I can find.
RH
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