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Post by dubiousgolfer on Apr 30, 2024 7:23:07 GMT -5
Dr Mann
What is your opinion of the recent AMG video regarding the takeaway and the wrist movements?
DG
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Apr 30, 2024 9:55:12 GMT -5
Dr Mann What is your opinion of the recent AMG video regarding the takeaway and the wrist movements? DG I think that this AMG video is full of misinformation. I agree that the lead shoulder must move away from the target and get close to being vertically above (or near) the trail foot by P4. However, the AMG instructors state that the head should not move to the right and they do not explain how that is possible. Consider these various upper torso loading patterns. Let's presume that a golfer rotates his pelvis/lumbar spine 45 degrees and his upper torso by another 45 degrees so that the shoulders get roughly perpendicular to the ball-target line by P4. If the golfer rotates the lumbar spine by 45 degrees and keeps the thoracic spine neutral relative to the lumbar spine, then he will end up in position A = Rightwards upper torso loading pattern. The head will have to move well to the right. To get to position B (rightwards-centralised upper torso loading pattern), a golfer will have to simultaneously use an arch-extension maneuver that will cause the thoracic spine to tilt more targetwards relative to the lumbar spine during the backswing action. To get to position C (leftwards-centralised upper torso loading pattern), more arch-extension will be required. Position D is the reverse pivoting position due to excessive use of the arch-extension maneuver combined with tilting of the lumbar spine in a targetwards direction. MG wrongly states that all golfers have to open their clubface by 90 degrees by P4. That's untrue! That only happens in golfers who use a weak-or-neutral lead hand grip and who therefore have to use a lot of lead forearm pronation between P1 => P4 to get the back of their GFLW to be angled about 45-60 degrees relative to the ground at P4. A golfer who uses a very strong lead hand grip where the clubface is closed ~65 degrees relative to the back of their lead hand at adddress will use a negligible amount of lead forearm pronation between P1 => P4 and the amount of additional clubface opening manifesting at P4 will be very small. MG wrongly states that if the lead wrist is bent at address, which is common in a golfer who uses a weak-or-neutral lead hand grip and who holds his hands midway between his thighs at address, that he should keep the same degree of lead wrist dorsifexion between P1 => P2. I disagree! Most pro golfers who use a weak-or-neutral lead hand grip use the intact LFFW/GFLW technique and they should establish a intact LFFW/GFLW by ~P1.5/P1.75 so that they already have an intact LFFW/GFLW alignment at P2. This image shows how Martin Hall performs the takeaway between P1 => P2.
Note that the lead wrist is bent at address (image 1) and that the LFFW alignment is therefore not intact. Note that the degree of lead wrist dorsilflexion decreases between P1 => P2 and that an intact LFFW/GFLW alignment is established by P2 (image 3).
MG/SW talks about how to set the lead wrist (which occurs in the plane of lead wrist ulnar => radial deviation). The lead wrist setting phenomenon is optional in terms of timing - it can early between P2 => P3 if a golfer uses the Right Forearm Takeaway technique or it can happen after P3 if a golfer uses the one-piece takeaway technique. Jeff.
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Post by dubiousgolfer on Apr 30, 2024 12:06:02 GMT -5
Many thanks Dr Mann
Although at 3:33 MG does say that the head can move a bit (ie. half a head).
DG
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Post by dubiousgolfer on May 2, 2024 10:16:16 GMT -5
Dr Mann
Do you know of any pro-golfers that use a one-piece takeaway?
DG
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Post by imperfectgolfer on May 2, 2024 18:44:48 GMT -5
Dr Mann Do you know of any pro-golfers that use a one-piece takeaway? DG Here are 3 examples. ![](https://www.perfectgolfswingreview.net/ChambleeWide.jpg) Jeff.
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Post by dubiousgolfer on May 2, 2024 19:29:15 GMT -5
Many thanks Dr Mann
DG
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